GreenDrogon wrote:
Thanks for the poem Peter. I was aware of it but didn't think to include it in the article. But I didn't know the names of the other men, were any of them lucky enough to survive like my grandfather, or were they all killed?

Hi GreenDrogon.

I'd like to echo CSM's comments and complement you on a great story very well told.
And well done to the Usual Suspects who have added to this topic.

I live close to Phibsboro and when passing through I sometimes think of the people shot there in the days of conflict.
Like Sean Healy, a 15 year old messenger for the Volunteers/Fianna killed during the 1916 Rising. He's easy to recall, as there's a plaque to his memory at Doyle's Corner on the crossroads with NCR.
Plus a statue commemorating the Volunteers of Easter stands in the nearby Royal Canal Bank park where the old canal branch to The Broadstone was.

Only once or twice have I thought of the DMP man I knew had been shot there and couldn't recall his name.
I will in future, thanks to your excellent tribute to R.J. Revell.

To answer your question about the men in the poem - none of them - apart from 37B John Barton - were killed anyway.
As far as I know - and subject to correction - there were six DMP G-Division fatalities in the War of Independence.
The victims were (Dates, etc. from Irish Times):
1. Patrick Smyth, Det. Sgt. Shot five times 30 Jul 1919 near his home in Drumcondra. Died in Mater Hospital of complications from his wounds 8 Sept.
2. Daniel Hoey, Det. Const. Shot dead 12 Sept 1919 in Townsend Street (within sight of his station at Great Brunswick - now Pearse - Street).
3. Michael Downing, Det. Const. Shot 19 Oct 1919 in High Street, died in Mercer's Hospital same day.
4. John Barton, Det. Sgt. As Peter said, shot 29 Nov 1919 on College Street (within sight of his station at Great Brunswick - now Pearse - Street), died in Mercer's Hospital 30 minutes later.
5. William Redmond, District Inspector (DMP 2nd Assistant Commissioner?). Shot dead 21 Jan 1920 in Harcourt Street, within weeks of being brought from Belfast to rebuild G-Division.
6. Laurence Dalton, Det. Const. Shot 20 April 1920 in Mountjoy Street. Died in nearby Mater Hospital same day, despite a blood transfusion from a DMP colleague, Const. Neary.
(This shooting location is close enough to where your grandfather was attacked).

I believe 14 other G-Men were wounded. One I knew of was Det. Const. Thomas Wharton (Now I know of two).

I'm sure the resident experts will clarify/correct above!

There was also a DMP Const. Henry Kells shot dead on or just off Camden Street (Pleasant Street) 21 April 1920. I think he may have been a uniformed policeman but I have seen, somewhere, him described as a plainclothes detective for only a few months when shot.
His surname seems to have appeared too often as "Kelly".

By the way, GreenDrogo, I've seen a report on the funeral of Smyth (No. 1 above) which mentions your grandfather's name as an attendee.
I'll be posting some info on Det. Sgt. P. Smyth, including the names of the police at his funeral. Shortly.

Cheers
DesW 
PS - I think my post should be moved from this topic to avoid messing up the RJR story line?

Edited 4 times by DesW Jun 23 14 11:49 PM.